Guest writer for Wake Up World
Industrialized/militarized society is, unfortunately, filled with individuals who are willing to do anything or say anything, so long as it provides a paycheck, a pension, and (what they perceive as) a secure place in the world’s most powerful tribe — and the climate engineering field is no exception.
The global climate engineering/weather warfare assault is the greatest and most immediate threat faced by humanity and the web of life, short of nuclear cataclysm. Obscuring skies all over the globe, highly toxic heavy metals and chemicals from these illegal programs are supersaturating our breathable air column and thus contaminating every breath we take. So, when specific individuals have made a career out of helping to cover up the criminal geoengineering programs by their “professional” public denial, these individuals need to be exposed.
The “scientists” in question are paid to pretend geoengineering is only a “proposal” which helps to pacify the population in regard to the threat already posed by ongoing geoengineering programs — and “Carnegie Science” appears to be major sponsor of the ongoing climate engineering cover-up and disinformation campaign.
The 3 minute first video, below, from Carnegie representative Ben Kravitz is a very revealing example of the “geoengineering is just a proposal” deception. Two more primary actors in the geoengineering deception effort (also part of “Carnegie Science”) are Dr. Ken Caldeira and Douglas MacMartin (AKA Douglass MacMynowski) who appear in the following 10 minute video. Do you think their acting is convincing?
Ben Kravitz
Doug MacMaynowski and Ken Caldeira
Yet another “Carnegie Science” climate engineering disinformation representative is Dr. David Keith. Keith has helped to draft the new “study”, excerpted below. Ken Caldeira and Doug MacMartin (AKA MacMynowski) also contributed to this “study”.
Carnegie Council Announces Launch of Carnegie Climate Geoengineering Governance Initiative
Two excerpts from this report are below:
“There is a considerable lack of understanding of the governance requirements for addressing climate geoengineering—technologies that fundamentally require multilateral governance approaches… This is what the C2G2 Initiative plans to address.”
“… there is no comprehensive international framework to govern these technologies, which have planetary-wide consequences, pose many serious, unknown risks, and raise profound ethical questions.”
So, what did Ken Caldeira do when he worked as a scientist for the United States government? In the 1 minute video below you can hear some of the shocking answers in Mr. Caldeira’s own words. “Highlights” include how to spray pathogens into clouds to infect the populations below, how to create tsunamis that destroy coastal cities, and using weather as a weapon, etc.
In the 5 minute video below, David Keith (who has also been exposed publicly by Stephen Colbert) has stated at an international science conference that the goal of geoengineering is to put 10,000,000 tons of aluminum nanoparticules into the atmosphere annually, by jet aircraft dispersion.
This final 2 minute video (below) is of Mr. MacMartin (AKA Mr. MacMynowski) explaining how we can “test” global geoengineering programs.
With all the above information considered (along with other geoengineering studies and solar radiation management reports drafted by Douglas MacMartin), the dialog shown below becomes very relevant. It is a full transcript of my very recent communications with Douglas MacMartin in which he compares “believing” that geoengineering is already deployed, is to believe that “the moon is made of blue cheese”.
The conversation with “Carnegie Science” climate engineering disinformation representative Douglas MacMartin (AKA MacMynowski) began from an initial message sent to MacMartin from a very dedicated and credible anti-geoengineering activist, Maciej Kocialkowski, who expressed his very dire and justified concerns about climate engineering to Mr. MacMartin.
Response to Maciej from Douglas MacMartin (AKA Douglass MacMynowski):
Good day Maciej,
I am sorry that you have been so deliberately deceived, but if you were a decent human being you would learn the facts before accusing other people of bad behaviour.
Theory #1: Clouds are made of water vapour
Theory #2: There is a vast conspiracy of hundreds of thousands of people in every single country on the planet, not one of whom is willing to break the silence and acknowledge that clouds are, in fact, not made of water vapour.
Personally I find Theory #1 to be more likely, but I understand that there are some people on the planet who find Theory #2 to be compelling, and that they are even capable of taking pictures and posting them on websites; just because they know how to use a camera and know how to type doesn’t mean that you should trust what they say. Like I said, I’m sorry you’ve been deceived by dishonourable people, but please don’t accuse us of lying when we tell you that clouds are made of water.
I think it is clear who is cowardly, morally and ethically bankrupt here…
I was CC’d on the above communication between Maciej and Douglas, and joined in the dialog:
Hello Mr. MacMartin, our legal team (Legal Alliance to Stop Geoengineeing, LASG) recently conducted a survey of almost 1500 climate scientists/meteorologists. These academicians were asked if they were willing to deny (on the record) ongoing geoengineering deployment. Not a single scientist was willing to deny the geoengineering reality Mr. MacMartin, not one. Are you willing to tell us on the record that you know with certainty that global geoengineering/climate engineering/solar radiation management/stratospheric aerosol injection programs have not yet been deployed?
Survey of 1500 scientists/meteorologists (the entire list of academicians surveyed is contained in the link, PDF file)
FYI
I have been on conference calls all week with a growing # of attorneys that are joining our effort, geoengineering will be exposed, wait and see. When that happens, how will the public react to your narrative of denial which in effect has helped to cover up the ongoing climate engineering crimes? Time will soon enough reveal the answer to that question.
Sincerely
Dane Wigington
Response from MacMartin (MacMynowski):
Hi Dane,
Yes, there is no deployment anywhere of any deliberate stratospheric aerosol injection program that is intended to significantly alter the climate. If there were some clandestine operation somewhere on the globe that was big enough to matter, we would be able to detect it from satellite data.
The fact that most scientists don’t waste their time responding to random emails from people doesn’t prove that they believe such a program exists. I tend to get about 100 emails a day on average, I can’t possibly waste my time responding to everything that comes in. A quick skim of some of the responses you got makes it quite obvious that no-one believes such a program exists.
I also think that if you demanded of 1500 scientists that they deny that the moon is made of blue cheese, you would find very few who would open the email and bother responding. If you think that that means that scientists think that the moon is made of blue cheese, you would be certifiably delusional.
Please do not post material stating that I am a liar when you have no evidence of such a statement (and indeed, since that statement is false, it is you who are a liar, you who are deliberately deceiving innocent people). I think that either you are incapable of rational thought, or morally repugnant. You would be wise to stop and think clearly before trying to spread false information.
There are real problems in this world that demand real attention. Inventing fake ones is a waste of everyone’s time.
Doug
My reply to MacMartin (MacMynowski):
Mr. MacMartin, it seems you continue to irrationally display your adversity to reality. As a “scientist” you can amazingly say with certainty that you somehow that no climate engineering programs have been deployed anywhere by anyone? And for proof you state you would “detect” such spraying activity from satellite data? Though 1500 scientists refused to deny the climate engineering issue on the record, you somehow know for certain that no climate engineering whatsoever is taking place?
Perhaps you need to take a closer look at some satellite images Douglas, which you claim prove there is nothing going in our skies.
FYI, there are countless satellite images that clearly show ongoing aerosol operations, clearly not commercial traffic,
geoengineering trails satellite images
If your claim is that this is all just “condensation trails” Mr. MacMartin, this also does not hold up to any legitimate investigation.
FYI
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/the-contrail-lie
Are the NASA satellite images in the link below also just “natural cloud cover” Douglas?
or these NASA images
Perhaps you should comb through this 750 page historical congressional document on global climate intervention programs and explain to us all why we should ignore it.
FYI
The final statements in your message to me truly reveal an irrational desperation to deny on your part, Mr. MacMartin. [The quote from MacMartin is below].
“I also think that if you demanded of 1500 scientists that they deny that the moon is made of blue cheese, you would find very few who would open the email and bother responding. If you think that that means that scientists think that the moon is made of blue cheese, you would be certifiably delusional.
“Please do not post material stating that I am a liar when you have no evidence of such a statement (and indeed, since that statement is false, it is you who are a liar, you who are deliberately deceiving innocent people). I think that either you are incapable of rational thought, or morally repugnant. You would be wise to stop and think clearly before trying to spread false information.
“There are real problems in this world that demand real attention. Inventing fake ones is a waste of everyone’s time.”
The public is rapidly waking up to the willful mass deception being propagated from the very “academicians” like yourself that the public has been so well trained to trust. I would ask you, Mr. MacMartin, how do you think the population will react (once fully awakened to the truth) to individuals such as yourself who have done everything in their power to hide the lethal climate engineering reality from them? Do you not believe that such an awakened public will hold people like you legally and morally accountable as accessories in the crimes of the climate engineering cover-up? Time will soon enough tell as the critical mass of awakening draws near. About my statements relating to your total disregard for the truth, I stand by them. There are only three possibilities in your case, Mr. MacMartin, either you are criminally negligent in your knowledge of the very profession in which you claim to be an expert, or you are visually challenged and cannot see the blatant aerosol spraying that is so clearly visible in countless satellite images that you claim prove there is no aerosol spraying, or finally, yes, for whatever reason or motive, you are willfully choosing to deceive the population on this most critical issue, Mr. MacMartin.
The truth about the ongoing climate engineering reality will soon be known by all, Douglas, wait and see. When that time comes, you, and all those like you (who have willfully deceived the public about the geoenigneering reality and dangers), will face the public’s demand for legal and moral accountability.
Dane Wigington
MacMartin’s (MacMynowski’s) reply:
On Jan 23, 2017, at 5:29 AM, Douglas MacMartin wrote:
It is clear that you are not interested in reality. Please don’t waste our time.
My reply to MacMartin (MacMynowski):
Is that the best response to all the data I posted that you could come up with Douglas? “It is clear that you are not interested in reality. Please don’t waste our time”. Did you even bother to examine the NASA satellite images included in the last message? Or the 750 page US Senate report? I see that Dr. David Keith is on this email list which someone has put together. Mr. Keith, like you, will soon enough likely be held legally and morally accountable by an awakened and enraged population.
Another FYI below Douglas, a very damning 5 minute video of Dr. Keith discussing the dumping of 10 to 20 million tons of aluminum into the stratosphere annually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qEBZAE0rbs
The next FYI 6 minute video below is shocking time-lapse footage of solar radiation management programs being carried out. Yes, populations are beginning to wake up to the fact that they are all a part of a grand and lethal experiment without their knowledge and consent. An illegal and unimaginably destructive experiment that individuals like you, Dr. David Keith, and Dr. Ken Caldeira, are willfully deceiving the public about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUo1H1fJGdw
And there are countless other up close film captures of what is clearly jet aircraft aerosol dispersions
FYI,
2 minute video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLwfFtDFZDpwulG0PJ9IID0iypsRXDSa1E&v=iK9nVR9H34g
And another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q-BZxl-Zxk
And another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSSWnXQsgOU
And another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GrspMZJoyE
And there are many more.
Douglas, can you state with a straight face that this is just “condensation” being turned on and off from these jet aircraft?
Understand this, Douglas, I and a rapidly growing number of others all over the country and, indeed, the world, will continue to do our best to make sure the public is completely aware of the part you (and people like Dr. Keith and Dr. Ken Caldeira) have played in the criminal climate engineering cover-up.
Dane Wigington
Reply from Douglass MacMartin (MacMynowski)
Hi Dane,
I’m sure that you are a well-intentioned person who simply cares deeply about the planet (like me and presumably everyone else you email), but that you have misled yourself, and in doing so have gotten yourself too angry to have a polite and informed conversation from which you might learn something.
At some level I don’t really care if you believe things that aren’t true, but you are misleading other well-intentioned people and filling them with mis-placed anger as well. The world would be better off if people spent their energy working on real problems in constructive ways. If you are concerned about climate change, for example, write your representatives and senators and ask for policies to address climate change. Unfortunately, by convincing people of things that aren’t true, you aren’t helping make the world a better place but simply wasting people’s energies.
While I unfortunately don’t have high confidence (based on your previous emails) that there is any chance that you will be swayed, I would ask the rest of the people that you have tried to influence to think carefully about why they are believing you rather than believing the tens of thousands of people who have devoted their entire careers towards understanding the climate and how to make the world a better place.
My understanding from people I’ve talked to about this is that the root confusion here is that what any meteorologist looks at as a natural contrail, you take pictures of and claim it isn’t a contrail. Why do you believe that water vapour can make clouds under the right atmospheric conditions, yet water vapour that comes out of a jet exhaust shouldn’t do the same? (Especially in the presence of lots of appropriate cloud condensation nuclei in the exhaust.) This isn’t anything mysterious…
And I am utterly baffled as to why anyone would draw any connection between aircraft contrails and those of us who are working to understand climate engineering. Those of us involved in that research are motivated entirely by concern over the suffering of humans and non-humans alike due to climate change, and we think there is sufficient cause for alarm about the future to do the research into the idea of putting something like sulfate (not a significant part of aircraft exhaust) into the stratosphere (higher than the airplanes you see making contrails). No-one is doing anything like this now. No-one ever has. No-one is even proposing it. When you claim that those things are true, you are simply making it up and then accusing lots of other people of lying. (And if in 30 years someone does decide that the situation is dire enough to warrant geoengineering, it won’t look remotely like contrails from aircraft.) The only connection between aircraft contrails and geoengineering is that both of them involve the atmosphere; that’s a pretty tenuous link. The only thing that exists today is computer modeling. Everything that you have said about me is something that you have simply made up and then tried to convince other people is true.
If you want to understand something about climate engineering, I would recommend reading the National Academy report on the subject from 2015, and you will quickly learn that it has nothing whatsoever to do with any of the things that you write about on your website.
If you are interested in learning something from polite, curious, open-minded conversation, that’s great. If you are only interested in ranting and accusing people of bad behaviour, I don’t think that is constructive or useful to any of us. Sorry to be blunt, but I don’t go around making things up and convincing dozens of my friends to send meaningless hate-mail to random people, and I think you could help make the world a better place if you didn’t do that either.
Doug
P.S. You might also want to know that when you try to disparage other people and falsely accuse them of bad behaviour in a public way, that doesn’t come across well and doesn’t reflect well on your values.
My response to MacMartin (MacMynowski)
Mr. MacMartin (or is it Mr. MacMynowski? Isn’t that your former name? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o8wBo4R7ME), perhaps you think you are fooling some on this email list by pretending to be a victim (which you absolutely are not), but even the academicians and corporate media sources on the list are becoming aware that the climate engineering elephant in the room can’t be hidden much longer. Coming article posts will continue to present data that exposes you, and those like you, who appear to be making a career out of public deception on an issue of unimaginable gravity. Douglas, the truth about the global climate engineering/geoengineering/solar radiation management programs will soon be known by the masses, how do you think they will react to those who did their best to cover-up the highly toxic and environmentally devastating climate engineering crimes? We will soon enough find out…
DW
BTW
The questions below, already sent to you, which you never gave an honest answer to, or any answer to, Mr. MacMartin. (other than to compare the ongoing climate engineering issue to the moon being made of “blue cheese” even when you have been directly involved in the climate engineering issue for a very long time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o8wBo4R7ME).
Questions formerly sent but never even acknowledged by you. No comment on the NASA photos and US Senate documents?
Perhaps you need to take a closer look at some satellite images Douglas, which you claim prove there is nothing going in our skies.
FYI, there are countless satellite images that clearly show ongoing aerosol operations, clearly not commercial traffic,
geoengineering trails satellite images
If your claim is that this is all just “condensation trails” Mr. MacMartin, this also does not hold up to any legitimate investigation.
FYI
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/the-contrail-lie
Are the NASA satellite images in the link below also just “natural cloud cover” Douglas?
or these NASA images
Perhaps you should comb through this 750 page historical congressional document on global climate intervention programs and explain to us all why we should ignore it.
FYI
Final response from MacMartin (MacMynowski)
Dane,
First, don’t bother responding to this email, as I’ve already blocked your email address, as it is clear that you are not interested in any polite discourse from which you might learn something. So I will never see what your response is, and you won’t be able to receive any satisfaction from thinking that whatever you type, someone just might feel insulted. Any response you type will just be wasted effort going into a meaningless void (kind of like this email, come to think of it)…
So many in the circles of academia (and journalism) have completely betrayed the human race, and the entire web of life. One cannot help but wonder how such individuals can so completely and totally abandon any sense of honor or morality. Man’s attempt to manipulate Earth’s life support systems is the epitome of human folly and insanity, it is nothing short of willfull planetary omnicide. Exposing the criminal climate engineering deception and cover-up (and all those contributing to it) is essential, all of our efforts are needed in this battle.
Editor’s note — “Gaslighting”:
In the above exchange, Douglass MacMynowski reveals a classic example of “gaslighting”. A tactic generally used (in desperation) by agents of disinformation. “Gaslighting” is a form of manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in its targets by using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction and lies, to make targets question their own memory, perception and sanity, thereby attempting to destabilize the target and undermine the validity of their argument.
About the author:
Dane Wigington has an extensive background in solar energy. He is a former employee of Bechtel Power Corp. and was a licensed contractor in California and Arizona. He currently owns a 1,600-acre ‘wildlife preserve’ next to Lake Shasta in Northern California, and his personal off-grid residence was featured in a cover article on the renewable energy magazine, Home Power.
Dane initially focused his efforts and energy on the geoengineering issue when he began to lose very significant amounts of solar uptake due to ever-increasing “solar obscuration” caused from the aircraft spraying in his area. He also noted significant decline in forest health and began testing and researching into geoengineering about a decade ago.
Today Dane is the lead researcher for geoengineeringwatch.org, investigating all levels of geoengineering from stratospheric aerosol spraying (SAG) to HAARP. He assisted Michael Murphy with his acclaimed production of “What In The World Are They Spraying?” and has spoken extensively in a wide range of forums to explain the environmental dangers we face on a global level.
For more information, visit GeoengineeringWatch on Facebook and GeoengineeringWatch.org (where this article first appeared.)
Recommended articles by Dane Wigington:
- CIA Whistleblower Speaks Out About Geoengineering, Shadow Government, 9/11, and the Persecution of Truth-Tellers
- Revealed – US Senate Document Confirms National and Global Weather Modification (Geoengineering) Programs
- Ocean “Fertilization” – Governments Geoengineering Our Oceans With Industrial Waste
- U.S. Government Engineering The Climate To Control Populations
- NASA Satellite Imagery Reveals Shocking Proof of Climate Engineering
- Ocean Die Off – Massive Toxic Algae Bloom Fuels Marine Ecosystem Collapse
- Weather Modification Causing Global Climate Chaos and Environmental Catastrophe
- New Study Confirms Climate Engineering Is Contributing To Planetary Meltdown
- Prominent U.S. Scientist Sounds The Alarm On Geoengineering
- Climate Engineering and the Manipulated Perception of the U.S. Population
- Geoengineering – How Do We Stop The Spraying?
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